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PostSubject: So you think you can draw? HA!   Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:16 am

No.

You can't just wake up in the morning and draw a sketch that would be the prize of your portfolio.

Learning to draw takes years of practice! Not just off and on, I'll-draw-when-I-feel-like-it practice, you have to practice your technique EVERY SINGLE DAY if you want to improve it to the point where you can be a good technician. If you want to be a good artist, you have to have creative talent, and I can't teach you that.

So... I shall teach you how to be a technician. Whether or not you are an artist, you'll have to find out for yourself.


PROPORTIONS


Don't try to draw a person without knowing the basic proportions. If I see that you do this, and I see that you call it "art", I will hunt you down and kill you.

Listen to me: YOU CANNOT DRAW PEOPLE WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF PROPORTIONS.

Now, I'm not an expert on male proportions, but I can teach female proportions.

The head is the base for the entire figure. Generally, a female is about 4-6 heads tall.

The torso should be the same width as the head, with the shoulders extending out a little past the ears.

The abdomen and waist should be the same length as the torso.

The upper body is the length of the thighs and knees, which is also the length of the lower legs (not including ankles and feet).

If the figure were to be standing with its arms at its sides, then the elbows should reach the waist. The lower arms are the same length as the upper arms, and the hands are 1/2 the length of the upper arms.

Now, I want you people who are SERIOUS about learning this stuff to draw a woman (it doesn't have to be detailed, just so long as it isn't a stick figure and it has some show of curves) with this proportion guide in mind. I want you to scan it, post it here, and I'll tell you how badly you fail.

Then, we shall work on improving your knowledge of the human ANATOMY. YEAH.

CAN I GET SOME PEP, PEOPLE?


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This is what a finished sketch should look like if you use the proportion guide:



Okay, you know what, I messed up bad on the ankle. It looks like she's missing her ankle, basically, but ignore that. This is how the proportions show look if you follow the proportion guide.
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PostSubject: Re: So you think you can draw? HA!   Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:23 pm

Well I like the art aspects. The message is your opinion but most people on this site don't share those opinions if you could please keep them to your self that would be appreciated.

I just started drawing last year and I haven't done that much but here is one drawing. Usually I only do faces so this was my first body.


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PostSubject: Re: So you think you can draw? HA!   Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:10 pm

Okay, I can't believe that I left the TA for so long, and I let my class get so badly in-active. I'm so sorry.

Alright guys, there is no longer a competition. e will have a semester long class on The Body, breaking it down into terms we can deal with. Lesson 1: Eyes, is up and I would appreciate it if you could have a look!

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PostSubject: Re: So you think you can draw? HA!   Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:20 am

I will just comment this real fast cause it really made me mad.

xxsistergrimxx you have no write to talk like that in a lesson. It's false, uncalled for and really impolite.

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No.

You can't just wake up in the morning and draw a sketch that would be the prize of your portfolio.

Learning to draw takes years of practice! Not just off and on, I'll-draw-when-I-feel-like-it practice, you have to practice your technique EVERY SINGLE DAY if you want to improve it to the point where you can be a good technician. If you want to be a good artist, you have to have creative talent, and I can't teach you that.

So... I shall teach you how to be a technician. Whether or not you are an artist, you'll have to find out for yourself.


I don't want to EVER see that kind of reaction again!

You do NOT need to practice every single day! For example, down.the.rabbit.hole said she only stared to draw a year before she posted and her drawing is FAR better than yours! It's her first body and it's looks really AWESOME!

From now on you will need to keep your tone down and respectful!

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PostSubject: Re: So you think you can draw? HA!   Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:44 am

Good.
So now that I am a teacher here, I believe I should speak my mind about this too.

xxsistergrimmxx wrote:
Learning to draw takes years of practice! Not just off and on, I'll-draw-when-I-feel-like-it practice, you have to practice your technique EVERY SINGLE DAY if you want to improve it to the point where you can be a good technician.


I canīt deny that you should practice now and then when you want to improve you techinque. But I do not practice every single day.

Art isnīt all technique. If you donīt feel like it the chance that something good comes of it is quite limited.
Art is about feeling and developping an eye for detail and the whole thing youīd like to draw.
Iīve seen people draw beautifully that have never even thought about techinique.
One of the girl in my Art Class never practices at all. She just draws and this in the most beautifully manner Iīve ever seen.

Aliceīs drawing is another proof. Itīs one of the best and most disturbing drawings that Iīve ever seen.

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Don't try to draw a person without knowing the basic proportions. If I see that you do this, and I see that you call it "art", I will hunt you down and kill you.

Listen to me: YOU CANNOT DRAW PEOPLE WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF PROPORTIONS.

[...]

Now, I want you people who are SERIOUS about learning this stuff to draw a woman (it doesn't have to be detailed, just so long as it isn't a stick figure and it has some show of curves) with this proportion guide in mind. I want you to scan it, post it here, and I'll tell you how badly you fail.


Here, again. I cannot say that everything you wrote is wrong because it isnīt. But the statement "You cannot draw people without the knowledge of proportions" - that simply is WRONG.
As Iīve already said I know people drawing without any knowledge of theoretical art AT ALL.
And I myself have drawn people long before I īd even heard of the golden ratio - and this successful.

And thereīs one thing more: humans are individuals. the theory of proportion might work in THEORY but the perfect man doesnīt walk anywhere on earth.
In Art the little flaws are what makes the painting/ drawing charming and believable.

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PostSubject: Re: So you think you can draw? HA!   Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:10 pm

i do love drawing but i think that was a smidgen of an overreaction.

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